This was a very provocative interview; Kate Bowler has a tough story all her own, and that gave her a special insight into how important it is that our doctors treat us as–well, as humans.
Listen here: https://pod.link/1341076079/episode/MmE5NmEzM2UtZGNjYi0xMWVhLTg0ZTctNTc3NGE3NzU5Y2Ri